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Post by raiye on May 29, 2006 11:40:01 GMT 1
Mitzi my new lurcher foster is completely deaf. And extremely independant. Trying to hold her attention for longer than a couple of minutes is proving to be the most frustrating thing! Shes not food or toy eager, and theres much better things going on in the world than what I want her to do!!! Any point in the right direction??? Cheers.
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Post by Selina the Moorland Minx on May 30, 2006 13:20:16 GMT 1
In the past I have used a long line with deaf dogs, and when he/she looks at you give a large sweeping motion of your arm to signal her to come back to you, and then gently pul her in so she knows what she has to do, another signal can be to hold your arm out and she has to touch your hand with her nose in return for a treat. You have to use a high value reward treat to teach both of these methods such as warm chicken, sausage, liver cake etc. If she still shows no interest in coming back for the tidbits once she knows you have them then take her breakfast out and use that, or use the high value treats instead of giving her breakfast, if she is hungry it is more likely she'll come back for some food.
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Post by LurcherGirl on May 31, 2006 13:40:06 GMT 1
I would break the recall down in tiny steps as I describe in the pinned thread. Also, I would invest in a vibration collar, although that might not be a viable option for a foster dog as they are quite expensive. Start recall exercises on a short lead, then gradually make the lead longer (see pinned thread). Lurchers are not easy to train for recall, particularly if they have such breeds in them like a saluki... I know, I have got two of them... But you can get there by persevering.
The fact that the dog is deaf only makes a difference in that you have to get his attention and that you need to use hand signals more than perhaps with a hearing dog. The training as such is the same.
If you type deaf dog training into a search engine, it comes up with some good links too. Especially Barry Eaton is experienced with deaf dog training.
Does the lurcher not even respond to things like cooked chicken for example?
Vera
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Post by mugsy on May 31, 2006 16:00:02 GMT 1
There are various ways of getting your dog's attention, some use torches, bean bags and even clapping your hands a dog can feel. Barry Eaton used to be a mod on Taking the lead and there are people on their that have experience of deaf dogs, in fact it has a forum to itself. If you want to go and look the address is www.takingthelead.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl. they are nice people on their that will help as much as they can.
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Post by raiye on Jun 4, 2006 10:53:26 GMT 1
Food treats work very well round the house, but once outside shes not interested in anything other than what she wants to do. She plays with a frisbee in the garden, but "what frisbee??" outside! Shes very independant and doesnt follow the "pack"
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Post by clairej810 on Jun 4, 2006 19:11:01 GMT 1
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Post by raiye on Jun 11, 2006 12:15:49 GMT 1
Shes picking hand signals up very quickly, shes mastered sit, down and shake hands. We are presently working on a signal meaning ball, with the hope of playing leading to better attention span out doors. But so far she loses interest rather quickly and theres always something better to explore or chase. But we are still going forward, so small steps but still progress ;D
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Post by mugsy on Jun 11, 2006 12:35:58 GMT 1
Have you tried clapping your hands when she is near enough, this worked for Dixie when she went deaf. Thankfully we taught her hand signals as well as commands when training her.
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Post by raiye on Jun 11, 2006 13:18:10 GMT 1
Its something I do automatically, like calling her name!! Which I still do very often Shes not my friend today, I honestly think shes sulking with me. Shes an avid bin raider and today I brought a really big pedal bin instead of our old swing bin. Shes obviously seen one before because she has no problems with the pedal. But the bins soooo big she cant reach to get her nose in while standing on it ;D ;D Its quite comical, will try and get pickies.
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Post by Selina the Moorland Minx on Jun 11, 2006 20:11:57 GMT 1
PMSL, I've got one of them, a deaf bin raider thatis, Flo came to me as an oldie and extremely deaf, she does now a signal for come and sometimes responds to clapped hands but not very often, she can get a bin lid off a bin quicker than i can shout at her, PMSL.
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Post by raiye on Jun 16, 2006 14:59:05 GMT 1
The TTouch went very well with Mitzi and is helping to calm her down really well. Her sit command is now at about 95% and so is her down, both dependant on surfaces Her bringing a toy back is improving now shes learnt the chase me tactics dont work. lol. Still struggling to keep her attention even for the look command. Have started to introduce a couple of new signals for her, currently working on walkies and ball
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Post by mugsy on Jun 16, 2006 15:44:43 GMT 1
The TTouch went very well with Mitzi and is helping to calm her down really well. Her sit command is now at about 95% and so is her down, both dependant on surfaces Her bringing a toy back is improving now shes learnt the chase me tactics dont work. lol. Still struggling to keep her attention even for the look command. Have started to introduce a couple of new signals for her, currently working on walkies and ball Well done ;D Sighthounds do have problems holding the "Watch Me", so you are doing well to get her to do this and it will improve but very very slowly. Merlin still doesn't hold it for more and about 15 seconds but that is fine with me, I can get his attention back again quickly which is more important.
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Post by Anneski on Jun 20, 2006 12:23:38 GMT 1
When I fostered a deaf BC pup for a month I used a laser pointer keyring to get his attention when he was looking away from me. He focussed on that more than anything else we tried - but then being a collie did help. It probably wouldn't work with either of my lurcher/whippets as they'd look at it, look at me, look at each other and conclude that I'm mad!
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Post by raiye on Jul 26, 2006 22:45:45 GMT 1
We're taking Mitzy to the Newark disk dog event this Sunday to see how she fares in public. It will all be securely fenced too so she can have some off lead time, see how she reacts and behaves. Luckily every one there knows of her and is prepared too
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Post by NIKKIB on Jul 26, 2006 22:56:45 GMT 1
Hope all goes well and enjoy yourself,
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Post by mugsy on Aug 3, 2006 17:14:32 GMT 1
We're taking Mitzy to the Newark disk dog event this Sunday to see how she fares in public. It will all be securely fenced too so she can have some off lead time, see how she reacts and behaves. Luckily every one there knows of her and is prepared too How did it go Raiye?
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Post by raiye on Aug 3, 2006 21:53:42 GMT 1
It went absolutely fabulous! She even had some off lead fun and caught a disk. Though chase was better than retrieve She did get excited and bark a fair bit, but she was generally well behaved. She even went for a quick swim in the river to cool down. Considering the travel too, we went on the train the day before, 120 mile journey, and she was ace! She was very well behaved towards the other dogs there too and didn't shout at them too much
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